# Intro I’ve had the pleasure of trying out many browsers. # Reviewed - Brave - current fav, simply because it’s Chrome without Google - relatively long-lived, less chance it will change significantly or disappear overnight - gripes: - cannot disable brave icon/logo in address bar ![[CleanShot_2022-10-13_at_12.33.342x.jpg]] - Arc - runner up, will consider switching as default - main selling point (to me) is command palette - they also have some other features which I do not use - Sidekick - meh? their thing is sort of “browser as OS” since many tools we use our web apps - personal preference is still for an electron app, so their core feature is not a selling point imo - a pro-electron stance may be controversial on HN, but individual apps as “contexts” is how i situate apps in my mind - works with karabiner hyper mode - Vivaldi - seems great, maybe even better than brave, but… slow - has a notes feature! why don’t more browsers support this - it’s a bit lackluster. no formatting, no linkage - why so slow? - love that they support unlimited history and lots of customizatoin - gripes: - slow - Orion - chrome AND firefox extensions supported. amazing. have not yet had issues with my extensions - gripes: - safari-based, so mac-only and inferior (IMO) devtools - SigmaOS - Interesting take on how to use the web. They've thought through an alternate browsing workflow (which is mandatory 😒 see griped below) - Keyboard centric - gripes: - dictatorial about workflow. sentiment seems to be “if you _just try_ our way you’ll love it! also it’s mandatory” - keyboard-centric UX _without_ keyboard customization # Others - Opera - Edge - they have a mac version - haven’t used. figured if it’s just chromium then what’s the selling point? # The incumbents - Chrome - wins by default because devtools - Firefox - promising… i’ve never been able to really like it for some reason. maybe it’s not snappy enough, maybe the UI feels slightly less good, not sure - Safari - gripes: - various css / js doesn’t work. odd edge cases - must use Safari to change the default browser away from safari